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Originally posted by cutothefrozen4 View PostThere is a long list of excuses on why this season has gone like it has, but we still can go on a run. I think we have plenty of flaws but there are bright spots like Ryan and Trey Taylor’s freshman campaigns, Sarsland getting better as the year goes on, plenty of issues with our top players that have been very inconsistent. We are younger as a group now, there’s no 21 year old freshman Brossesu, Egle, Rempal, Sturm that’s instantly dominating games. Our star players now came to Clarkson at 18/19 Beck/A. Campbell/Martino are still struggling to find consistency that age and experience brings in terms of their mental and physical development. Plus we can all see how small we are down the middle and just in general we have a lot of softer skill guys. Daimon Gardner next year is super exciting, big skilled player, but again very young, even look at Sarsland, super young, but is consistently getting better as the season goes on, should be an effective upperclassman. Croteau might push Haider too next year, if he stays, which is great and is needed even though Haider is great, if Haider moves on Croteau is an exciting freshman and makes me not worry about losing Fowler although he’s looking like a very promising NHL prospect for this upcoming draft, just shows how great the staff has done identifying goaltenders. It’s hard because we always have lofty expectations each year, and are essentially a perennial bubble team, and I think we even get back on this year. Casey needs our experienced “best” players to start acting like it. Definitely surprised to see the ECAC this year, it’s actually a lot better than I expected and a lot of programs seem to be trending upward. In the portal era/extra covid years you never know how things will shake out, but Clarkson should in theory be returning a lot of pieces next season and Croteau/Gardner + portal pieces should help out.
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Originally posted by cutothefrozen4 View PostThere is a long list of excuses on why this season has gone like it has, but we still can go on a run. I think we have plenty of flaws but there are bright spots like Ryan and Trey Taylor’s freshman campaigns, Sarsland getting better as the year goes on, plenty of issues with our top players that have been very inconsistent. We are younger as a group now, there’s no 21 year old freshman Brossesu, Egle, Rempal, Sturm that’s instantly dominating games. Our star players now came to Clarkson at 18/19 Beck/A. Campbell/Martino are still struggling to find consistency that age and experience brings in terms of their mental and physical development. Plus we can all see how small we are down the middle and just in general we have a lot of softer skill guys. Daimon Gardner next year is super exciting, big skilled player, but again very young, even look at Sarsland, super young, but is consistently getting better as the season goes on, should be an effective upperclassman. Croteau might push Haider too next year, if he stays, which is great and is needed even though Haider is great, if Haider moves on Croteau is an exciting freshman and makes me not worry about losing Fowler although he’s looking like a very promising NHL prospect for this upcoming draft, just shows how great the staff has done identifying goaltenders. It’s hard because we always have lofty expectations each year, and are essentially a perennial bubble team, and I think we even get back on this year. Casey needs our experienced “best” players to start acting like it. Definitely surprised to see the ECAC this year, it’s actually a lot better than I expected and a lot of programs seem to be trending upward. In the portal era/extra covid years you never know how things will shake out, but Clarkson should in theory be returning a lot of pieces next season and Croteau/Gardner + portal pieces should help out.
You've essentially made a list of excuses. You are correct that there's been a change in the college hockey landscape. The addition of only a couple of NCAA D-1 programs, you see a big hit in the talent pool of the "21 year old freshman" that helped the smaller programs compete in college hockey. However, that isn't going to change and adjustments have to be made. Schools like Quinnipiac have made that adjustment... and yes, I know QU enjoys a bit more in the way of resources with the full D-1 athletic budget and a few games broadcast on TV in the NYC and Boston markets but we should be able to recruit at or near their level. We all understand that Clarkson can't go out and get the first round pick but we have to be out there looking for the underrated 5th or 6th rounders and occasionally we can grab a 3rd rounder that falls in love with our environment.
The biggest problem we've seen during Casey's tenure is lack of development in the time that players are in the program. That includes freshmen that still look like freshmen 30 games in as well as players that don't improve significantly year over year. Players and player advisers who have aspirations to the NHL or a hockey career look at what our program has done for past players and how the experience at Clarkson could prepare them for the next level. When you look at guys like Dickinson (who granted left for 1 year) who never really made any progress even in the ECHL or Rempal who at least made it to the NHL for a cup of coffee but has been a career AHL guy, it doesn't exactly bring aspiring NHL players to our program. You're hanging your hat on the success of Nico Sturm at this point. The NHL is full of 5th and 6th rounders and undrafted free agents who went the college route and have enjoyed good careers, but Sturm is the only one currently that has Clarkson next to his name. If you look through the list, you see several names from "lesser" programs like Bemidji, Bowling Green, heck even Brown has a couple on the list.
I know coaching has changed as has player expectations, but if you look at Mark Morris' tenure, with a few notable exceptions (Thomas, Mueller), he had a long list of players that played in organized hockey at or above their "potential" at time of recruitment. If you don't offer that success to kids, you aren't going to get on the recruiting radar. Casey does not have that record.
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A weekend sweep is absolutely crucial to maintain a chance to fight back into 4th place. Colgate’s upset win over Q hurt a lot. Clarkson’s inability to come out on top in the gritty battles against basement dweller teams has really jammed them up. 6 points left on the table between shootout losses at home to Brown and Yale, and a blown lead turned OT loss to RPI. Flip those results and we’re 1 point out of 4th place. Colgate travels to Harv/Dart this weekend so they SHOULD leave points on the table(I also assumed that when they played Q).. We still go down there to play them yet and have a chance to sweep the season series against them which could prove useful should Clarkson claw their way into a 4th place tie. Colgate also has to play their home-and-home against Cornell yet. But Clarkson needs to help themselves first before looking around the league for help by sweeping SLU.
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Can't believe this team has gotten to this low of a point. So tired of this crap this team deserves to lose. In such a crucial game and like EVERY SINGLE game this season we slip in the 3rd. If Jones would get these guys off their a**es and play a full 60 minute game we would actually go somewhere. Offense doesn't do a single thing whatsoever, and Haider is playing his head off to keep them in. He's the only one I give credit here.
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Currently in 7th place after last night's collapse. We have 9 games remaining, 6 of those against teams above us (potentially 0-6 against them, maybe hopefully get a couple points), opponents below us are Yale and Brown (both ties in 1st meeting) and Dartmouth (a narrow 5-4 win) so I think those three games are toss ups. To remain in 7th place or even move up to 6th would be a miracle, more likely this is an 8th or 9th place team destined for one and done in the first round of the playoffs.
Time to put the blame squarely on the players, notably captains McFaul and Callin for lack of leadership. And our top players on offense, Campbell and Martino, are mostly invisible. Martino's goal last night was an own goal by SLU.
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Meanwhile David Silye nabbs his 20th goal for the Mavericks last night. 20 GOALS....how did "the Bucket" and his staff not keep this goal scorer on the team? He claims he left because the team was "6 deep in centermen". Good for him because I'm convinced he wouldn't have 1/4 of the 31 points he now has, 2nd in the nation in goals, if he had remained in P-dam.
Just another example of how talented players in the present system are NOT IN SHOOTING position in the right places at the right time - due to the system employed by the staff. Pulling the best player on the team off the ice after his first bad goal (the 3rd) last night to try to shake the team up may have helped on the tally sheet.
This team needs a bigger shake-up than just the goaltender. I will be very sad if there isn't a move today and a search begins tomorrow for next year. It is time to kick the bucket and his "grind in the corners with 3 offensive players" style of manure he calls offense off of campus. Ethan's one of the only reasons we've been in so many games and I do hope that he realizes that.
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