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  • Originally posted by LetsGoTech16 View Post
    Seriously losing 3-0 to a 3-14-4 Yale. Losing is bad enough but not even a goal?! Like come on this is like watching SUNY Plattsburgh take it to SUNY Potsdam!
    Potsdam beat Plattsburgh this year…

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    • Originally posted by NCNYHockey9 View Post

      Potsdam beat Plattsburgh this year…
      I don't keep up with D3 hockey like I used to

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      • After this atrocity, they shouldn't even let Casey ride the team bus to Providence. Let him take an Uber to Potsdam and pack his bags.

        Honestly, is there one player on this roster that would be a big loss in the transfer portal?

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        • Embarrassing going into cogo weekend with a losing record. Tomorrow might be interesting since Brown got whitewashed by SLU 6-0. Maybe a 0-0 score.

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          • Originally posted by dano View Post
            After this atrocity, they shouldn't even let Casey ride the team bus to Providence. Let him take an Uber to Potsdam and pack his bags.

            Honestly, is there one player on this roster that would be a big loss in the transfer portal?
            Start the search for a new coach.

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            • Originally posted by dano View Post
              After this atrocity, they shouldn't even let Casey ride the team bus to Providence. Let him take an Uber to Potsdam and pack his bags.

              Honestly, is there one player on this roster that would be a big loss in the transfer portal?
              Martino would be a huge loss, regardless if he’s mentally quit this year or not. If he doesn’t sign an ECHL deal, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him transfer.

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              • Do we really think the school, down enrollment, supposedly suffering for money is going to get rid of a coach that is one of the highest paid employees at the university and would force the university to most likely pay the buyout plus then pay the new coach, and in a nice reality could take advantage of the NCAA rule to have a 3rd assistant. I just don’t see that being practical. Still in shock how bad we actually are, confidence is low, the understanding of line mates is the bare minimum, and the structure of which we play with is disjointed, the culture of the program has done a complete 360.

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                • Originally posted by Remember Walker View Post

                  A low to high cycle only works when the forwards actually pass the puck out QUICKLY to the defensemen. Too many times this year they CARRY the puck 3/4ths the way out, then soft pass to the defeseman who now has the opposition right on him (usually the player that followed our offensive player out). Next years team needs to spend a week simply passing the puck with no one trying to shoot. Passing has never been in "the bucket's" playbook, but Badger Bob Johnson lived by it...and won many championships and awards because of it.

                  As for your earlier comments about draft selections and forwards, go look at Mankato and see that the entire team is undrafted...yet, in a more difficult conference, they have 2x more wins than losses. Good players that can gel and play together, line after line, using a system that features getting open to take higher percentage shots is what this team needs. We do not need more glamour, but we need staff who know how to accomplish a far better offensive system that the 11 year "project" we've lived with watching.

                  I know.... give them one more chance.

                  Life is too short for that.
                  While that’s true some of the time, in terms of the forwards being slow getting it low to high, the defense are slow in advancing the puck in their own end and through the neutral zone nearly every time and just play with no confidence, Beck has too much sometimes and while we need that, he needs to work on connecting plays together, he’s too much of an individual. We are around the outside with nearly everything we do offensively and our net front traffic is pathetic which quite literally comes down to out working your opponent. I’m fine with anyone leaving, it’d probably be better to rebuild the team through the portal and try to find some leadership and someone that’s going to hold teammate’s accountable on and off the ice.

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                  • Originally posted by cutothefrozen4 View Post
                    Do we really think the school, down enrollment, supposedly suffering for money is going to get rid of a coach that is one of the highest paid employees at the university and would force the university to most likely pay the buyout plus then pay the new coach, and in a nice reality could take advantage of the NCAA rule to have a 3rd assistant. I just don’t see that being practical. Still in shock how bad we actually are, confidence is low, the understanding of line mates is the bare minimum, and the structure of which we play with is disjointed, the culture of the program has done a complete 360.
                    The head coach position is an endowed position. And yes, supposedly the school is down enrollment and they need to figure out a way to operate in that climate. This was known to be coming after the state decided that it was going to create an incentive for students to go to state schools. None of that is my concern.

                    My concern is for the hockey program. If they don't clearly see the fact that Casey's program isn't working and that he's done a terrible job creating a team post-COVID, then something is wrong. You can line up a mile of excuses but that doesn't excuse the fact that many similar programs at schools at just as much of a disadvantage are excelling. Clarkson never fully recovered it's fan base from the end of the Roll era and it's at risk of losing even more by letting Casey coach long past his expiration date. This team has been on a downward spiral since 2020 and signing Casey to a 3 year extension might have been the worst idea ever.

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                    • Originally posted by CheelFaithful92 View Post

                      Martino would be a huge loss, regardless if he’s mentally quit this year or not. If he doesn’t sign an ECHL deal, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him transfer.
                      As I have been saying since last year, all of CU4 ‘s
                      attempts to rationalize aside, they have all quit!
                      That is not resources, recruiting or systems. This is
                      we don’t want to play for this guy. Think Bruce Cassidy
                      Good coach, stuck in the past. B’s bring in a new coach
                      boom, they are off to the races. Cassidy goes to LV, they tank.
                      same players on both teams , much different results.

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                      • Originally posted by CheelFaithful92 View Post

                        Martino would be a huge loss, regardless if he’s mentally quit this year or not. If he doesn’t sign an ECHL deal, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him transfer.
                        Martino is a skilled player, no doubt. However, he hasn't proven that he's strong enough to play at the NCAA D-1 level, much less the AHL or NHL. I'm not saying that he's quit mentally or maybe he's still hurt, but there's a lot of progress that he needs to make to get to the next level. What is abundantly clear is that this team has quit as a whole and there's no accountability in the locker room.

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                        • Originally posted by dano View Post

                          The head coach position is an endowed position. And yes, supposedly the school is down enrollment and they need to figure out a way to operate in that climate. This was known to be coming after the state decided that it was going to create an incentive for students to go to state schools. None of that is my concern.

                          My concern is for the hockey program. If they don't clearly see the fact that Casey's program isn't working and that he's done a terrible job creating a team post-COVID, then something is wrong. You can line up a mile of excuses but that doesn't excuse the fact that many similar programs at schools at just as much of a disadvantage are excelling. Clarkson never fully recovered it's fan base from the end of the Roll era and it's at risk of losing even more by letting Casey coach long past his expiration date. This team has been on a downward spiral since 2020 and signing Casey to a 3 year extension might have been the worst idea ever.
                          They didn’t recover the fan base from the end of the Morris era, the hockey program is my concern as well. I just don’t think you’re going to get some big upgrade. He will play out the final 2 or 3 years, whatever it is, and won’t be renewed. When a team spirals like this I don’t see it getting much better in the near future, there will be a mass exodus. As I alluded to I’m hearing there’s certain people asking out of NLIs to explore other options. If Casey was smart, he’d let anyone go who genuinely doesn’t want to be there and preach opportunity to anyone in the portal that wants a change of scenery. It’s not their faults but the two assistants came in at the worst time, but whoever is running the PP deserves to be fired on the spot.

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                          • Sounds like CU4 has a little more info than the average fan.
                            And changing an ass’t is the oldest stall in sports.

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                            • My mother said a couple days ago that even SUNY's enrollment is down 20%. I see there is a new "Healthcare" major at Tech that looks like a complete joke. They are really diluting here and it looks bad. Once schools start doing stuff like this, the end is nigh. It shows they are circling the drain and scrambling, and schools usually aren't able to climb out.
                              Maybe it's time to kill the hockey program, and the athletic dept except for the gym and rec/clubs. Yes, I'm a former CU athlete. For the foreseeable future, it looks like continuing to pour good money after bad with no improvement or return in sight.
                              A 4-0 loss to a squad of Yalies that looked like a bunch of junior high kids when I walked by them on the sidewalk a few weeks ago is unacceptable. End of.
                              TCS '96, CU '00

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                              • btw, rumbling/knives are out for Dartmouth's coach, too, after the 7-4 loss to Princeton last night.
                                TCS '96, CU '00

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